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News - Last comments http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&tempskin=_atom&disp=comments b2evolution 2018-08-16T07:55:21Z In response to: No more threats, no more fear, animal research is finally here! joseph2002 [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=no_more_threats_no_more_fear_animal_rese&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c728 2008-11-12T19:35:12Z 2008-11-12T19:35:12Z Good job Pro Test.]]> In response to: Students at Freshers’ Fair show they are “Pro-Test” curiousstudent11 [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=students_at_freshers_fair_show_they_are_&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c727 2008-11-05T16:05:15Z 2008-11-05T16:05:15Z
Thanks, Nadia X]]>
In response to: Pro-Test welcomes statistics on animal research in 2007 mintyfresh [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=pro_test_welcomes_statistics_on_animal_r_2007&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c721 2008-08-12T10:59:46Z 2008-08-12T10:59:46Z
If you want to read another article by Tom have look at http://www.indiconews.com/watch.php?Id=16.

Brilliant statistics as to why we should keep animal testing! ]]>
In response to: Report backing primate research gets global media coverage paul [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backing_primate_research_gets_glo&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c142 2006-12-18T15:44:26Z 2006-12-18T15:44:26Z
It's very frustrating when you're trying to discuss treatments for HIV/AIDS and someone repeats Peter Thatchel's favourite myth that clinical trials of the protease inhibitors by Merck were held up for four years due to toxicity in animal studies carried out in 1989. In fact the Merck protease inhibitor which failed animal tests in 1989 would almost certainly have killed any AIDS patients it was given to. Luckily in the same year (1989) the crystal structure of HIV protease became available and after four years of testing over a hundred protease inhibitors one was identified that had good anti-HIV activity in vitro and good bioavailability and acceptable toxicity profile in animal tests. This protease, Indinavir, went on to clinical trials in 1993 (Dorsey B. D. et al. J. Med. Chem.(1994)
PubMed: 7932573) and was approved for use in 1996 and became a key component of highly active anti-retroviral therapy (HAART).

This is just one example of what scientists have to deal with when trying to debate with anti-vivs.

Fortunately the media seem to be becoming more aware of how unreliable so-called "scientific" anti-vivisection is.]]>
In response to: Report backing primate research gets global media coverage david wong [Visitor] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backing_primate_research_gets_glo&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c138 2006-12-16T16:07:28Z 2006-12-16T16:07:28Z although I disagree with most of what
was said. Mel didnt get a chance to
talk about this big problem at hand
(animals being imprisoned and tortured),
but the arguments did not focus on this
and as usual they were asking Mel crap questions i.e. about his prison time etc.A A very sad tactic I think! They didnt
mention all the bad points from the drug
industry etc. I dont think it was fair,
and I dont like being lied to and I
would image neither does the public!]]>
In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison iain [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c130 2006-12-16T15:30:23Z 2006-12-16T15:30:23Z In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison dianne [Visitor] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c129 2006-12-16T15:23:44Z 2006-12-16T15:23:44Z
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In response to: Founder of animal rights philosophy supports primate research iain [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=founder_of_animal_rights_philosophy_supp&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c128 2006-12-16T15:21:17Z 2006-12-16T15:21:17Z In response to: Report backing primate research gets global media coverage iain [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backing_primate_research_gets_glo&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c127 2006-12-16T15:20:17Z 2006-12-16T15:20:17Z In response to: Founder of animal rights philosophy supports primate research david wong [Visitor] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=founder_of_animal_rights_philosophy_supp&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c126 2006-12-16T15:18:50Z 2006-12-16T15:18:50Z I think the BBC documentary was so bias
it could of been made by the oxfords
labs it self!
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In response to: Report backing primate research gets global media coverage david wong [Visitor] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backing_primate_research_gets_glo&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c122 2006-12-16T15:11:56Z 2006-12-16T15:11:56Z I think people have a right to see both
sides of the argument(a non-bias
documentary would help this) before they
make up their minds!]]>
In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison iain [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c72 2006-12-16T13:43:55Z 2006-12-16T13:43:55Z
Presumably you refuse all medical treatment then, and would do the same for your family. If it's a choice between animals and humans, I know which I value more.]]>
In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison dianne [Visitor] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c70 2006-12-16T13:13:16Z 2006-12-16T13:13:16Z
it really is time to move on. How can human advancement be used in the same word as vivisection, which is actually this. The kidnap of a non human animal from its home (if it wasnt unfortunate enough to have been born into captivity for the sole purpose of testing), subjected to a horribly traumatising journey where many of its companions will die from fright, heartbreak or sheer brutality, incarcerated in a terrifying cold lab in a tiny metal cage, probably never ever leaving this environment, then waiting for the footsteps that will bring a 'scientist' to its door, to pull it forcibly out of the barren cold cage it inhabits, (yet this is this creatures only sactuary), to then be subjected to whatever this so called scientist decides to do to it.

One baby monkey that was rescued for instance by ALF, was found to have headphones on his head subjecting him to white noise in order to deafen him. His eyes had been sewn up. the protesters undid the stiches holding his eyes together and took him to a place of refuge. Can you ever believe we can progress as a species while such henious activities are not only allowed but actually condoned by many. (But then so was nazi Germany). What surprises me more than anything is that young people these days have become so brainwashed by the media into believing whatever they are told. I was a teenager in the 70's when we began to question everything, sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad, but mainly I believe for the good. Racial equality, sexual equality, environmental issues and global issues all sprang up then and were mostly fuelled by the young. Where did the passion go to make things better?

If you really look at this issue you will see that it is about the same thing that almost everything else is about - MONEY. you believe scientists are trying to help you? To cure the escalating rates of cancer? YouA lot of you at Protest are Oxford University students. Has it nevetr occurred to you to look at the reasons behind so many of our diseases? You get ill, a pharmaceutrical company brings out a drug, gets it tested on a number of animals (which bear no resemblance to ourselves) and it its tested on enough and they can produce some nonsense about it being 'safe', they can then make themselves - BILLIONS! Wake up to what this is really about!]]>
In response to: Report backing primate research gets global media coverage paul [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backing_primate_research_gets_glo&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c57 2006-12-15T14:02:10Z 2006-12-15T14:02:10Z
One example of this is when they mention the discovery made in monkeys in 1998 that the early depletion of CD4+ T-lymphocytes plays a very important role in the pathogenesis of SIV. This work prompted researchers to undertake biopsies to examine whether the same was happening in humans infected with HIV, something they would not otherwise have done. They discovered that HIV also distroys most CD4+ T-lymphocytes in the gut very soon after infection. This discovery will hopefully lead to better treatments and help design vaccines for HIV. A good, well- referenced account of this work is at http://www.iavireport.org/Issues/Issue10-2/beast.asp]]>
In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison ad [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c51 2006-12-15T12:32:04Z 2006-12-15T12:32:04Z In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison iain [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c50 2006-12-14T13:40:26Z 2006-12-14T13:40:26Z
That you disagree with the "entire practice of the pharmaceutical industry" is interesting, I assume you refuse all medical treatment?]]>
In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison ad [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c47 2006-12-13T20:41:32Z 2006-12-13T20:41:32Z Even if we could cure cancer with
animal testing-which we never could, I
would still be against it, as its
Imorraly unethical-if your so pro about
vivisection-why dont you donate your
pets to the new lab?


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In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison paul [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c46 2006-12-13T10:31:48Z 2006-12-13T10:31:48Z

There has been quite a lot of interest recently in trying to identify why African macaques don't develop AIDS when infected with SIV (e.g. Kornfield C. et al J. Clin. Invest. 2005). It is hoped that this information will be useful in developing new treatments for HIV/AIDS.

I stand by my claim that pre-clinical animal testing for toxicity and pharmokinetics is necessary. Such testing is not perfect, but then neither are clinical trials. Without thorough pre-clinical testing of novel medicines in animals there wouldn't be many willing volunteers for clinical trials. Your attempt to blame animal testing for all adverse drug reactions is at best misleading, at worst it is a distraction from the real measures that need to be taken to reduce the problem of ADRs.]]>
In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison Tom [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c45 2006-12-13T00:09:49Z 2006-12-13T00:09:49Z [I have to admit - the block capitals caught my attention]]]> In response to: Report backs primate research as another anti-viv faces prison iain [Member] http://www.pro-test.org.uk/b2evo/index.php?blog=5&title=report_backs_primate_research_as_another&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#c44 2006-12-12T23:45:28Z 2006-12-12T23:45:28Z